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that i was last year debating alberto gonzalez, and now i am debating friends who serve in the obama administration. so much has changed and so much has not changed. the program, whether it is legitimate or not, the answer is illegitimate and illegal in our mind. let's break it down. the 215 standard, it is important to read the words of the law. it defies the knowledge or understanding of the word "relevant" when you are collecting every single phone call, metadata, we will get into that. how is that limited to relevance when you say we have all the phone numbers that are made to and from american citizens. it had me think that the training and relevance -- metadata. they say, metadata is not content. metadata can give a lot of content. it tells how often i call my mother. who i call on the government. whose private cell phones i happen to have. who i do not call at the office because we cannot want a log of my phone call, but i have a private cell phone. we want keep that somewhat between us. when compiled in complete information can give you a very full picture of what my day is t
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